tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16790134.post2516956273313617189..comments2023-11-03T08:28:04.408-04:00Comments on Voice of Vision: Payment MadeEven So...http://www.blogger.com/profile/14208866122431178938noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16790134.post-67728522653670267642007-07-03T13:49:00.000-04:002007-07-03T13:49:00.000-04:00Truthfully, it isn't that most people actively den...Truthfully, it isn't that most people actively deny it, but that they haven't considered it and don't as yet understand it and the implications of it...but for those who do and still deny it, they are denying the heart of the gospel...and therfore I would and do deny them being in the faith, from our perspective...Even So...https://www.blogger.com/profile/14208866122431178938noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16790134.post-57735859519453424832007-07-03T13:46:00.000-04:002007-07-03T13:46:00.000-04:00I will always protest in the loudest terms possibl...I will always protest in the loudest terms possible whenever and whereever someone denies the penal substitution aspect of the atonement...Even So...https://www.blogger.com/profile/14208866122431178938noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16790134.post-30397301688972604652007-07-02T16:08:00.000-04:002007-07-02T16:08:00.000-04:00"These things may appease our conscience but they ..."These things may appease our conscience but they do not appease God’s wrath."<BR/><BR/>I remember back when I was first a Christian, I went to the priest and confessed my sins.<BR/>He then told me to say 5 "Our Fathers" & 5 "Hail Mary's".<BR/><BR/>I got through about 4 Our Father's when I thought this seems so wrong.<BR/><BR/>I was on the way to become a Protestant.donsandshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03665794015011057098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16790134.post-45511232681405540242007-07-02T13:39:00.000-04:002007-07-02T13:39:00.000-04:00(grinning) Propitiation is not a four-letter-word....(grinning) Propitiation is not a four-letter-word.Craver Viihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12882284402568264182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16790134.post-66805115174573609552007-07-02T11:40:00.000-04:002007-07-02T11:40:00.000-04:00Yeah, it is the heart of the good news...a bloody ...Yeah, it is the heart of the good news...a bloody yet beautiful thing that proves God's worth, not ours...Even So...https://www.blogger.com/profile/14208866122431178938noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16790134.post-37493763631086048032007-07-02T11:21:00.000-04:002007-07-02T11:21:00.000-04:00JD,Thanks for this excellent post. I love reading...JD,<BR/><BR/>Thanks for this excellent post. I love reading, pondering, preaching anything that has to do with propitiation. A buddy of mine has the coolest T-shirt that says...<BR/><BR/>"PROPITIATION"- Teach your kids its not a dirty wordAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14691842272306166930noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16790134.post-32841066095445446382007-07-02T08:54:00.000-04:002007-07-02T08:54:00.000-04:00Our lack of fully comprehending what you've said h...Our lack of fully comprehending what you've said here is why we can make statements like, "I'm basically a good person" and "I'm not as bad as _____" and "I volunteer 20 hours a week to______" and "I'm at church every time the doors are open" and on and on.<BR/><BR/>"Even my repentance needs repenting of".......I like that!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16790134.post-37274135909223325652007-07-02T01:19:00.000-04:002007-07-02T01:19:00.000-04:00If God were to simply pardon or forgive based on o...<I>If God were to simply pardon or forgive based on our bits of penance then that would say that the sins weren’t really all that bad and that God was not really all that holy.</I><BR/><BR/>Amen. I'm reminded of a quote, maybe someone will remember who: "Even my repentance needs repenting of." (Luther?)Taliesinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06250806687440204400noreply@blogger.com